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RE: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion
From: Vadim Antonov <avg () kotovnik com>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:17:44 -0800 (PST)
I can see situations in the future where people's lives could be dependent on networks working properly, or at least endangered if a network fails.
Actually it's not the future. My father's design bureau was making hardware, since 70s (including network stuff) for running industrial processes of a kind where software crash or a network malfunction was usually associated with casualties. Gas pipelines, power plants, electric grids, stuff like that. That's a completely different class of hardware, more of a kind you'd find in avionics - modules in triplicate, voting, pervasive error correction, etc. Software was also designed differently, with a lot more review processes, and with data structures designed for integrity checking (I still use this trick in my work, which saves me a lot of grief during debugging) and recovery from memory corruption and such. I'd be seriously loath to put any of the current crop of COTS network boxes into a life-critical network. --vadim
Current thread:
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion, (continued)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Michael Dillon (Dec 24)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Dobbins, Roland (Dec 24)
- RE: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion George Bonser (Dec 24)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Dobbins, Roland (Dec 24)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Scott Howard (Dec 24)
- RE: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion George Bonser (Dec 25)
- RE: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Vadim Antonov (Dec 25)
- RE: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 25)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Anton Kapela (Dec 25)
- RE: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion George Bonser (Dec 25)
- RE: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Vadim Antonov (Dec 25)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Michael Sinatra (Dec 28)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Owen DeLong (Dec 28)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Robert Boyle (Dec 28)
- BCPs, Exercising emergency process et al Jared Mauch (Dec 25)
- Re: BCPs, Exercising emergency process et al Sean Donelan (Dec 26)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion bross (Dec 25)
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- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Robert Boyle (Dec 26)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion David Hiers (Dec 28)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Bill Woodcock (Dec 28)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Owen DeLong (Dec 28)