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Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..
From: Brian Keefer <chort () smtps net>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:57:25 -0800
On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:59 AM, John Levine wrote:
Nor should they. Anyone who actually researches this stuff knows that the vast majority of "unsub" links simply confirm you as a live targetwho will click on random links sent to them through e-mail.That's the conventional wisdom, not confirmed by research. The FTC tried it in 2002 and found that opt-out made the spam load drop slightly, and I don't see any reason to think it would be different today. http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2002/04/51517 R's, John
The number of messages in their test is not that large, and it also sounds like a large majority of those were mailto: links. It's unsurprising they didn't go any where. These days they're pretty much all http: links going to botnet webhosts.
Also, from the same article:"Nonetheless, the risks of responding to spammers are far from illusory, said Jeff Richards, vice president of the consulting firm ePrivacy Group.
...when he sent removal requests to spammers of the more obvious con artist variety, in particular for messages emanating from exotic locales in Eastern Europe and Asia, Richards said he frequently wound up receiving more e-mail."
From my own experience with a Hotmail account a few years earlier (late '90s), I tried to unsubscribe from every single e-mail I got and went from a few dozen spams a week to several hundred very quickly.
This also pre-dates organized crime becoming heavily involved, and pre- dates the obsession with browser exploits. Back then a lot of spam was sent by semi-legitimate marketers from the US. These days all the bad guys are out to get you to click on a single link.
-- bk
Current thread:
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.., (continued)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Jo Rhett (Feb 26)
- RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Ray Corbin (Feb 27)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Ken A (Feb 27)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Brielle Bruns (Feb 25)
- RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Peter Beckman (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Suresh Ramasubramanian (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Peter Beckman (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Zaid Ali (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Brian Keefer (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. John Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Brian Keefer (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. John R. Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Alexander Harrowell (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Marshall Eubanks (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Brian Keefer (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. John R. Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Marshall Eubanks (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Seth Mattinen (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. mike (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Tony Finch (Feb 25)
- RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Ray Corbin (Feb 25)