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Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)]


From: John Osmon <josmon () rigozsaurus com>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:48:48 -0700

This is falling outside of the IPv6/RFC-1918 discussion, so
I'll only answer questions with questions...  If there's need for
a real discussion, I'll let someone change the subject, and continue
on...

On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 01:11:13AM +0100, Sven-Haegar Koch wrote:
[...]
The flip side shows up when Nintendo creates a cool new protocol for the Wii
that requires Internet access.  You Wii won't be able to participate
until you teach your proxy/NAT box about the new protocol.

What's the difference to firewalling without NAT? (Noone should connect
their (home) network without at least inbound filtering) There I have to
wait for the firewall box to support connection tracking for the new
(broken) protocol.

Why do I need an "Internet breaker" (firewall) to do connection
tracking?  Doesn't the host computer's software stack do that when
an inbound packet arrives?  Why do I need a separate box to do that
work with I trust my host?


If the end-users really get public addresses for their WII and game-PCs,
do you really think they won't just open the box totally in their
firewall/router and catch/create even more problems?

That's an issue of trusting the host...



Note:  All questions are hypothetical.  No packets were harmed in the
production of this hyperbolic response...



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