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RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0
From: "John van Oppen" <john () vanoppen com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:56:22 -0800
The main problem I see is peering wars and a lack of diversity, we have seen a couple incidents where they have dropped all or part of their connectivity to our market (seattle), during the latter they had major packet-loss which was frankly more annoying than them being down... Issues also tend to be a tad more frequent than other providers but on the whole, really not that bad. We basically use cogent as private peering to reach their customers. Operationally the incredibly annoying part is their helpdesk-style attitude towards prefix-lists, if you have a few prefixes this is no big deal but if you are like us and have 30+ downstream ASNs it can get annoying to repetadily explain to techs who don't get it why you need to have them add more routes, do le 24 matching (to limit the number of times we call) or to increase their max-prefix limit. If they were not so cheap I would cancel them just due to the lack of RADB support but at least they have no uRPF filters so I have taken to just doing batch prefix-list updates with them every few months as my sanity-saving solution. John van Oppen Spectrum Networks LLC Direct: 206.973.8302 Main: 206.973.8300 Website: http://spectrumnetworks.us -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:02 AM To: Mike Bartz Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or BtN. Best regards, Jeff On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Mike Bartz <mob () bartzfamily net> wrote:
I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to at&t, Level 3 and TW Telecom. The low cost and high number of peer AS number's seems appealing to us. Every carrier has its issues, so I don't know what to make of the apparent negativity that I am seeing in these haiku threads. I am looking for some first hand experiences to help me make this decision. Thanks for any assistance! Mike On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:59 PM, neal rauhauser <nrauhauser () gmail com>
wrote:
Cogent makes a mess My phone rings and rings Unfornicate this!-- Mike Bartz mob () bartzfamily net
-- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications of The IRC Company, Inc. Look for us at HostingCon 2009 in Washington, DC on August 10th - 12th at Booth #401.
Current thread:
- Cogent (was the poetry thread), (continued)
- Cogent (was the poetry thread) Seth Mattinen (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) joe mcguckin (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Seth Mattinen (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Martin List-Petersen (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent (was the poetry thread) Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Martin List-Petersen (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Seth Mattinen (Jan 12)
- RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 John van Oppen (Jan 14)
- Re: Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0] Jim Shankland (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0] Brandon Galbraith (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 12)
- Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Jack Bates (Jan 12)