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Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)
From: Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews () isc org>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:01:46 +1100
In message <8C5F1FEC-FF51-4BA2-A762-C13BC275E806 () virtualized org>, David Conrad writes:
It would seem that as ISPs implement DPI and protocol-specific traffic shaping, they damage the arguments that they can make claiming they have "common carrier" status with the inherent immunities that status provides. I can hear the argument now: if an ISP can throttle BitTorrent (or whatever) for specific nodes, why can't they also limit the source addresses of packets coming from those nodes?
They can and should. I suspect many of them do as they usually apply these filters to home networks. BCP 38 is ~10 years old now. It should have been factored into the purchasing decision of all the current equipement. If it wasn't then the operator was negligent. Mark
Regards, -drc
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews () isc org
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- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress), (continued)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Seth Mattinen (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Jamie A Lawrence (Jan 23)
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- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Danny McPherson (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) David Conrad (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Danny McPherson (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Jack Bates (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Roland Dobbins (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) David Conrad (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Mark Andrews (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Martin Hannigan (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Mark Andrews (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Paul Ferguson (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Michael Dillon (Jan 25)
- RE: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Lorell Hathcock (Jan 25)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) David Conrad (Jan 25)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Jon Kibler (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Michael Dillon (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Eugeniu Patrascu (Jan 25)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Eugeniu Patrascu (Jan 25)