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Re: Recommendations for Hong Kong datacenter, and a sanity check for my geopolitical conclusions ?


From: Tom Sands <tsands () rackspace com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:30:45 -0500

Equinix and Mega-iAdvantage are both good choices. Equinix is just standing up their peering exchange in HK, so this is something they have over Mega-I, and both can offer connectivity to HKIX.

Outside of the locations above, our HK presence is also a floor in a PCCW facility, which has been good so far. I'm also not a sales person, but we could offer the capability you are looking for, though we aren't colo if you ever needed physical access to your equipment.



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Chris McDonald wrote:
Making every effort to not pimp my employer (pccw), I would say that
the Equinix in HK is good and they have a decent equinix direct
product (one bill to pay).  If you're looking more for a "managed
colo", pccw owns powerbase which does that sort of thing.  HKCOLO is
good but space is hard to come by.







On 7/24/09, George Sanders <gosand1982 () yahoo com> wrote:

I will be expanding a small network infrastructure service (read: DNS and
mail ... a few 1u and 2u servers) to Hong Kong next year.

We don't have any particular customer base in Hong Kong - rather, we have
customers all over southeast asia and would like to serve them better, as
well as attract more SE Asia customers.

I chose Hong Kong for the following reasons:

- South Korea is alternately happy with / upset with Japan, and I don't want
to deal with that

- Japan is is alternately happy with / upset with South Korea, and I don't
want to deal with that

- Mainland China is out of the question, for obvious reasons

- The smaller (Thailand, Vietnamese, Phillipines, etc.) countries all have
their own particular issues (recent coup in Thailand, etc.)

So the choice came down to Hong Kong or Singapore, and I chose Hong Kong
because it seems easier to "just get things done" there.  I realize that in
the long term there is a greater risk of social paradigm shift in Hong Kong
because of mainland China, but in the short run it seems that Hong Kong is
more "functional" than Singapore.

Any comments on the above thought process ?


The obvious follow-up is, which datacenter ?

I need a full service center that will give me rackspace and let me just
plug ethernet into their switch.  I am not interested in brokering my own
connectivity, nor am I interested in running my own routers.  I want to pay
one bill to one organization and get one cable.  The end.

I think there are further considerations though ... I read details of one
very modern, very sexy datacenter housed in a skyscraper, but my research
showed me that this building has been built on land reclaimed from the sea,
and there is reasonable concern that the sand underpinnings could liquify,
to a degree, in a seismic event.  I'd also like to be more than a few feet
above sea level.  Honestly, as sexy as it would be to be in a slick tower
right on the bay in Central Hong Kong, I would much rather find some
nondescript, one story building, miles from the coast and a few hundred feet
above sea level.

What recommendations might someone have ?

Thank you very much for any comments or suggestions you may have.





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