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Re: Minnesota to block online gambling sites?


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:12:37 -0700

To me, the bigger question is "Are ISPs common carriers?"

To the best of my knowledge, the ISP businesses even of the telcos
are not of common carrier status under federal law.  If that is the
case, my understanding of statute in question is that it does not apply
and the ISPs should tell the MN government to go find a workable
statute.

Owen

On May 4, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Ken Gilmour wrote:

So is this going to become like the great firewall of China
eventually? You can see in the letters that they are "going to see how
it goes and then maybe start blocking more stuff" if they are
successful. I can see a big nightmare heading this way if ISPs start
caving in to requests like this.



2009/5/4 John Levine <johnl () iecc com>:
Not withstanding the legality of such an order, how would one
operationally enforce that order?

The order has a list of IP addresses, so I expect the ISPs will just
block those IPs in routers somewhere.

Since offshore online gambling is equally illegal everywhere in the
U.S., the ISPs have little reason to limit the block to Minnesota
customers, giving them a lot of latitude in where they implement the
block.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl () iecc com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex- Mayor
"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.



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