nanog mailing list archives
Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage?
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:54:49 -0600 (CST)
Joe Greco wrote:With power: N+1 is usually better than N Best to assume full load when doing math Things will go wrong, predict common failures The best plans are still prone to failure Safety margins can save your rear etcI find that electrical panelboards, busways, transfer switches, etc. are often put in the category of things that don't need maintenance or routine inspections. Big deal if you can start your fancy generator once a month (I prefer on-load weekly) but the in between stuff is in disrepair or full of mice. Even a simple dusty transfer switch could arc weld itself to once side of the contacts.
Yup. Related: "100% availability" is a marketing person's dream; it sounds good in theory but is unattainable in practice, and is a reliable sign of non-100%-reliability. The most common way to gain "100% availability" is to avoid testing under load. This surely protects the equipment against a whole slew of failures in the less-used portions of your power systems, but also protects you from detecting them outside your Hour(s) Of Greatest Need. And even for those who follow best practices... You can inspect and maintain things until you're blue in the face. One day a contractor will drop a wrench into a PDU or UPS or whatever and spectacular things will happen. Or a battery develops a strange fault. You do live load testing, you'll lose now and then. It's best to simply assume no single circuit is 100% reliable. You should be able to get two circuits from separate power systems and the combination of the two should really closely approximate 100%, but even there... it isn't. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
Current thread:
- Re: T-Mobile ?, (continued)
- Re: T-Mobile ? Paul Bosworth (Nov 03)
- RE: T-Mobile ? Charles.Jouglard (Nov 03)
- Re: T-Mobile ? Sean Head (Nov 03)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Michael J McCafferty (Nov 03)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) (Nov 03)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Max Clark (Nov 03)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Michael Holstein (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Matthew Petach (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Joe Greco (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Seth Mattinen (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Joe Greco (Nov 04)
- RE: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Alex Rubenstein (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Joe Greco (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Raphael Carrier (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Scott Howard (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Joe Greco (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Scott Howard (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Owen DeLong (Nov 04)
- RE: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Bryan King (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Robert Mathews (OSIA) (Nov 04)
- Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage? Joe Greco (Nov 05)