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Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact?
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:27:14 -0800
Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:50:54 EST, Brad Laue said:maintained. I'm unclear as to why mail administrators don't work more proactively with things like SenderID and SPF, as these seem to be far more maintainable in the long-run than an ever-growing list of IP address ranges.There's a difference between maintainable and usable. Yes, letting the remote end maintain their SenderID and SPF is more scalable, and both do at least a plausible job of answering "Is this mail claiming to be from foobar.com really from foobar.com?". However, there's like 140M+ .coms now, and neither of them actually tell you what you really want to know, which is "do I want e-mail from foobar.com or not?". Especially when the spammer is often in cahoots with the DNS admins...
identify framework with trust anchors and reputation management are not things that spf or pra actually solve. spammers can publish spf and senderid records and in fact arguably have more incentive to do so if it can be demonstrated that your mail is more likely to be accepted on the basis of their existence.
On the other hand, I can, by looking at my logs, develop a fairly good sense of "do I have any real non-spam traffic from that address range?". Yes, it's more work, but it's also more likely to actually answer the question that I wanted answered.
Current thread:
- AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Brad Laue (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Patrick Tracanelli (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Brad Laue (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Joel Jaeggli (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Brad Laue (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Michael Peddemors (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Brad Laue (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Justin Shore (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Brad Laue (Nov 24)
- Re: AT&T SMTP Admin contact? Patrick Tracanelli (Nov 24)