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Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:49:02 -0400
On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:
Perhaps someone from HE can re-confirm their open peering policy for us?If they aren't (open) anymore, I'm impressed by the bravado...
To be clear, I was not trying to imply that HE has a closed policy. But I can see how people might think that given my Cogent example. My apologies to HE.
And to be fair, I'm pounding on HE because they've always cared about their customers. I expect Telia to care more about their own ego than their customers' connectivity. So banging on them is nonproductive.
In summary: HE has worked tirelessly and mostly thanklessly to promote v6. They have done more to bring v6 to the forefront than any other network. But at the end of day, despite HE's valiant effort on v6, v6 has all the problems of v4 on the backbone, PLUS growing pains. Which means it is difficult to rely on it, as v4 has enough dangers on its own.
Anyway, I have confidence HE is trying to fix this. But I still think the fact that it happened - whatever the reason - is a black eye for the v6 "Internet", whatever the hell that is.
-- TTFN, patrick
----- Original Message ----- From: Marco Hogewoning <marcoh () marcoh net> To: Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> Cc: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Mon Oct 12 12:15:34 2009 Subject: Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:It is sad to see that networks which used to care about connectivity, peering, latency, etc., when they are small change their mind when they are "big". The most recent example is Cogent, an open peer who decided to turn down peers when they reached transit free status. I never thought HE would be one of those networks.Do we have any proof it's HE rejecting peering or is it that Cogent en Telia alike that are to proud to ask and think they can have a piece of the pie as they did with v4 ? MarcoH
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- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Brandon Galbraith (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Matthew Petach (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Charles Wyble (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Matthew Petach (Oct 20)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Matthew Petach (Oct 21)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Frédéric (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Owen DeLong (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Frédéric (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Michael Peddemors (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Joel Jaeggli (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Dan White (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Jack Bates (Oct 12)
- IPv6 filtering (was Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering) Marco Hogewoning (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 filtering (was Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering) Jeroen Massar (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 filtering (was Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering) Marco Hogewoning (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 filtering (was Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering) Jeroen Massar (Oct 12)