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Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy


From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:06:25 -0700



Seth Mattinen wrote:
Leo Bicknell wrote:
Worse, the problem is being made worse at an alarming rate.  MPLS
VPN's are quicky replacing frame relay, ATM, and leased line circuits
adding MPLS lables and VPN/VRF routes to edge routers.  Various
RIR's are pushing "PI for all" in IPv6 based on addressing availbility.
Some networks are actually finally using multicast for IPTV services,
generating much larger number of entries than the global multicast table
would otherwise indicate.


It's not the RIR's fault. IPv6 wasn't designed with any kind of workable
site multihoming.

Lest anyone forget it has the same non-workable site-multihoming that
has allowed the internet to grow to the size it is today. by non-working
we mean not-better than ipv4.

We actually know how to run that network pain and all.

The only goal seems to have been to limit /32's to an
"ISP" but screw you if you aren't one. There was no alternative and it's
been how long now? PI, multihoming, multicast, etc. is reality because
the internet is now Very Serious Business for many, many people.

Yes, I know there's hacks like SHIM6 and I don't wish to go OT into a
debate about them, so I'll just say that if there had been a viable
alternative to multihoming as we know it I think it would have been
given a go before policy got pushed to the RIR's to allow IPv6 PI.

~Seth



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