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Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:03:44 -0400
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Peter Beckman <beckman () angryox com> wrote:
service being cut off. However it is ignorance and lack of maintenance that makes viruses and botnets so prevelant that it may just be time to bite the bullet and force users to learn how to maintain their machines.
because this works so well with: 1) cars 2) home-security 3) personal security wandering around cities/towns I note that I'm not particularly against any of the proposal, just the 'people need a drivers license to get on the interwebz'... it's been tried many times before, always without success. I would also point out that Qwest does this walled-garden approach for their customers (have been for at least 5 years now? DonS@qwest could clarify) and they've seen success with it. Aliant in .ca also has some fairly aggressive anti-malware works installed. There are places where this sort of thing works well, planned and engineered properly. I think Qwest, at least, made some of their reasoning and design/goals publicly available for a time as well. -Chris
Current thread:
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility, (continued)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility Alexander Harrowell (Oct 07)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility Dave Temkin (Oct 07)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility Owen DeLong (Oct 07)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility Joe Greco (Oct 07)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility Rich Kulawiec (Oct 09)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility Lee (Oct 09)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility Michael Painter (Oct 09)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients Nils Kolstein (Oct 05)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients Rich Kulawiec (Oct 05)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients Peter Beckman (Oct 04)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients Christopher Morrow (Oct 04)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients Gadi Evron (Oct 04)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients Justin Shore (Oct 05)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients Leigh Porter (Oct 05)
- Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients Nathan Ward (Oct 05)
- RE: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted clients Lee Howard (Oct 05)