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Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation
From: Martin Hannigan <martin () theicelandguy com>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 23:41:26 -0400
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda () icann org> wrote:
On Sep 9, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Alex Lanstein wrote:Along the same lines, I noticed that the worst Actor in recent memory (McColo - AS26780) stopped paying their bills to ARIN and their addresses have been returned to the pool. It's my opinion that a very select number of CIDR blocks (another example being the ones belonging to Cernel/InternetPath/Atrivo/etc, if it were ever fully extinguished) are, and forever will be, completely toxic and unusable to any legitimate enterprise. Arguments could be made that industry blacklists can and should be more flexible, but from the considerably more innocuous case in this thread, that is apparently not the modus operandiPutting these addresses back into use does not mean that they have to be allocated to networks where they'll number mail servers. ARIN staff is doubtless aware of the history of these blocks and will presumably do their best to allocate them to networks that aren't intended to host mail servers. Regards, Leo
Not sure when ICANN got into the business of economic bailouts, but the mechanism that ICANN has defined seems patently unfair. Determining who is worthy of allocations based on a class without community input into a policy debate is "bad". ObOps: Chasing down all of this grunge ain't cheap or fair. Best, Martin -- Martin Hannigan martin () theicelandguy com p: +16178216079 Power, Network, and Costs Consulting for Iceland Datacenters and Occupants
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- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Martin Hannigan (Sep 14)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Martin Hannigan (Sep 15)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Justin Shore (Sep 15)
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- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation John Curran (Sep 09)
- RE: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Alex Lanstein (Sep 09)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Paul Ferguson (Sep 09)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Leo Vegoda (Sep 09)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Martin Hannigan (Sep 09)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation David Conrad (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Martin Hannigan (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation David Conrad (Sep 11)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Martin Hannigan (Sep 11)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation John Curran (Sep 13)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Martin Hannigan (Sep 14)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Mark Andrews (Sep 09)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Peter Beckman (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Benjamin Billon (Sep 10)
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