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Re: Hijacked Blocks (was: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation)
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:41:04 -0400
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:05 AM, John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:... For example: Ron Guilmette has recently pointed out that notorious spammer Scott Richter has apparently hijacked *another* /16 block -- 150.230.0.0/16.
oh lokoie, announced by mzima, wasn't mzima also announcing some /16 'shared' (or borrowed or rented or....) from a community in Florida until recently?
there's no reason for me to make it otherwise. Perhaps one day ARIN will yank it back, along with all his other blocks, and blacklist him
how is ARIN to know that there was some mischief going on here? (aside from someone telling them, did you Rich?)
for life; but (a) I doubt it and (b) I'm not willing to wait. The
I asked about this once, for another spammer. I think there was discussion of 'how do we know that personX is a 'spammer'? or bad enough to 'never allocate space to ever again'? There was also the normal ARIN comment about: "If the community supports this sort of action, they ought to bring forth policy that says so." The end of the discussion was along the lines of: "Yes, we know this guy is bad news, but he always comes to us with the proper paperwork and numbers, there's nothing in the current policy set to deny him address resources. Happily though he never pays his bill after the first 12 months so we just reclaim whatever resources are allocated then." (yes, comments about more address space ending up on BL's were made, and that he probably doesn't pay because after the first 3 months the address space is 'worthless' to him...) How should this get fixed? Is it possible to make policy to address this sort of problem? -chris
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- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation, (continued)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Leo Vegoda (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Christopher Morrow (Sep 13)
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- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Tim Chown (Sep 14)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Christopher Morrow (Sep 13)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Wayne E. Bouchard (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Jon Lewis (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Justin Shore (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Rich Kulawiec (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks (was: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation) John Curran (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks (was: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation) Christopher Morrow (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Chris Marlatt (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Christopher Morrow (Sep 14)
- RE: Hijacked Blocks Azinger, Marla (Sep 14)
- RE: Hijacked Blocks Azinger, Marla (Sep 14)
- RE: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation, replaced by registered use Michiel Klaver (Sep 15)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Randy Bush (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Christopher Morrow (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Randy Bush (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Christopher Morrow (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Randy Bush (Sep 14)