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RE: bgp best path compare-routerid implementation example


From: Austin Wilson <austinw () bandcon com>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:21:39 -0700

Dev,

Yes, using that command, it will use the lowest routerid as its preferred tie breaker path. Though, if all of your 
providers have different MEDs and you are using MEDs to engineer you traffic, your router should never have to tie 
break any traffic. Also any of the higher preference metrics will interfere with what you are trying to accomplish with 
a lower metric. Dani suggested changing the origin code so it wouldn't affect what you are trying to do with MEDs.

Everything else is dependent on how you want to manage your network.


Austin Wilson


From: devang patel [mailto:devangnp () gmail com]
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:07 AM
To: Austin Wilson
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: bgp best path compare-routerid implementation example

Hi...

So according to command it will select the path received from lowest router id right... so if you are sure about the 
path selection pattern then its good idea to use it...

And true that path selection change based on own network design...

is it good idea to set all received route attribute to particular origin code "i" as Dani showed in presentation... 
well again I guess answer will be depends on network design...

Thanks,
Dev
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Austin Wilson <austinw () bandcon com<mailto:austinw () bandcon com>> wrote:
Dev,


This is usually used to offset the oldest route metric. The problem is that when a link fails and comes back online, 
traffic can shift from one provider to another in the middle of your billing cycle. This then could mean you get double 
billed for that traffic. People use the command to basically turn off the oldest route metric and use the routerid (not 
peering ip) to make the last decision on where to send your traffic. This is commonly called "tie breaker" traffic. If 
a peer fails with this command enabled, when the peer comes back online, traffic should be restored to the original 
level before the failure.

A possible issue with this command is that if a local peer's route/session flaps it could have more of an effect on 
your network/router as it will always try move those routes back to the FIB. That's probably why they implemented this 
metric in the first place, the oldest route is the most stable. Another issue is that you are at the mercy of vendor's 
routerid when your router decides where to send your "tie breaker" traffic. Level3 gets most of this traffic since they 
have such low routeids.

There are ways to get around this problem and take back control of your tie breaker traffic. Dani did a pretty good 
tutorial on this issue and its located here:

http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog46/abstracts.php?pt=MTM3MiZuYW5vZzQ2&nm=nanog46

Basically he suggests using MEDs to change the tie breaker as part of a complete BGP traffic engineering solution. 
Doing the things listed there and elsewhere will mean you won't even have to use this command.



Austin Wilson


-----Original Message-----
From: devang patel [mailto:devangnp () gmail com<mailto:devangnp () gmail com>]
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:24 PM
To: nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>
Subject: bgp best path compare-routerid implementation example

Hello Nanog,

I am looking for the *bgp best path compare*-*routerid* implementation
example? I know the function of it but looking for some scenario where its
been used...

Thanks,
Dev


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