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Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?
From: Joe Abley <jabley () hopcount ca>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:55:54 -0400
On 2010-04-20, at 15:31, Roger Marquis wrote:
If this were really an issue I'd expect my nieces and nephews, all of whom are big game players, would have mentioned it. They haven't though, despite being behind cheap NATing CPE from D-Link and Netgear.
I have heard it said before that there is significant cooperation and/or software engineering work between some or all of those who make residential gateways and those who make multi-player games to achieve this end result. The opinion I heard vocalised at the time was that it would have been a lot easier to reach this state of affairs if there had been standardisation of NAT in v4 at an early stage. As it is, peer-to-peer apps like games require significant if-then-else to make anything work.
Address conservation aside, the main selling point of NAT is its filtering of inbound session requests.
If that was all that was required, you could sell a stateful firewall that didn't do NAT, and everybody would buy that instead because it would make things like iChat AV break less. Apparently there are other reasons to buy and sell devices that NAT (e.g. my ISP gives me one address, but the laptop and the Wii both want to use the internet). Joe
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- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?, (continued)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Smith (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? joel jaeggli (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Joe Abley (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Smith (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Doug Barton (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Roger Marquis (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Jack Bates (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Owen DeLong (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Jack Bates (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Roger Marquis (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Chris Adams (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Joe Abley (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Owen DeLong (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Daniel Senie (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Owen DeLong (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Smith (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Dave Pooser (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Owen DeLong (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Smith (Apr 21)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Jim Burwell (Apr 21)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Dave Sparro (Apr 21)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Cutler James R (Apr 21)