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Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?


From: Joe Abley <jabley () hopcount ca>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:55:54 -0400


On 2010-04-20, at 15:31, Roger Marquis wrote:

If this were really an issue I'd expect my nieces and nephews, all of whom are big
game players, would have mentioned it.  They haven't though, despite being behind
cheap NATing CPE from D-Link and Netgear.

I have heard it said before that there is significant cooperation and/or software engineering work between some or all 
of those who make residential gateways and those who make multi-player games to achieve this end result. The opinion I 
heard vocalised at the time was that it would have been a lot easier to reach this state of affairs if there had been 
standardisation of NAT in v4 at an early stage. As it is, peer-to-peer apps like games require significant if-then-else 
to make anything work.

Address conservation aside, the main selling point of NAT is its filtering of inbound
session requests.

If that was all that was required, you could sell a stateful firewall that didn't do NAT, and everybody would buy that 
instead because it would make things like iChat AV break less. Apparently there are other reasons to buy and sell 
devices that NAT (e.g. my ISP gives me one address, but the laptop and the Wii both want to use the internet).


Joe

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