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Re: VPN over Comcast


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:36:46 -0700


On Apr 27, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kevin Day wrote:


On Apr 27, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Michael Malitsky wrote:

I will probably be laughed at, but I'll ask just in case.

We are having particularly bad luck trying to run VPN tunnels over
Comcast cable in the Chicago area.  The symptoms are basically complete
loss of connectivity (lasting minutes to sometimes hours), or sometimes
flapping for a period of time.  More often than not, a reboot of the
cable modem is required.  The most interesting ones involve the
following: a PIX or ASA configured as an EZvpn client, connecting to a
3000 concentrator, authentication over RADIUS.  When I go to look at the
RADIUS logs, I see connections from the same box with small intervals.
Timeout is 8 hours, so theoretically I should see 3 connections in a
24-hr period.  In some cases, I see dozens, in the most egregious cases,
thousands over a 24-hour period.  I am taking that as an indicator of a
really unstable Comcast circuit.  We have not had this problem with any
other ISP, anywhere in the country.
I am pretty much down to telling customers to find another provider...  

Any thoughts or ideas on the matter will be appreciated.

PS.  To be fair (?) to Comcast, this is not a ubiquitous problem.  It
affects about 25% of the installations I get to see.

Sincerely,
Michael Malitsky



We experienced the same thing, and switching from UDP tunnels to TCP tunnels fixed it. There are two things at play 
here.

1) The SMC modem/router that they insist you use for their "Small Business" cable internet service seems to have 
trouble with very high rates of non-TCP traffic going through its NAT.

If you have business class service, insist that they put the cablemodem in BRIDGE-ONLY mode.  This will resolve this 
issue and eliminate the unnecessary NAT.

2) Comcast rate limits non-TCP traffic somewhere on their network.

Comcast rate limits traffic in general. TCP is not less rate limited than anything else in my
experience.

Owen



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