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Re: Terry Childs conviction
From: William Pitcock <nenolod () systeminplace net>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:37:16 -0500
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 21:23 -0500, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 4/29/2010 21:05, William Pitcock wrote:On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 21:48 -0400, David Krider wrote:On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 16:47 -0500, William Pitcock wrote:Surely even at DeVry they teach that if you refuse to hand over passwords for property that is not legally yours, that you are committing a crime. I mean, think about it, it's effectively theft, in the same sense that if you refuse to hand over the keys for a car that you don't own, you're committing theft of an automobile.I've seen a dismissed employee withhold a password. The owner of the company threatened legal action, considering it, like you, theft. My father-in-law is an attorney, so I asked him about the situation. He said that it wouldn't be called "theft," rather "illegal control."Same difference, he still committed a crime and anyone who is defending him seems to not understand this. Whatever we want to call that crime, it's still a crime, and he got the appropriate penalty.I beg to differ (the archives may reflect my objection last time around). I agree that a crime was committed. It was committed by the management that allowed this situation to exist. It is a pretty easy matter to maintain controls that make the passwords secure but still available to management when they need it. The simplest system was one of sealed envelopes in several different District Managers locked desks. Every now and again a manager would take his or her envelope out and test the passwords to see if they worked (usually just before the scheduled password change each month).
I don't disagree, but he should not have withheld passwords to devices that were not his direct property when asked by a superior. William
Current thread:
- Re: Terry Childs conviction, (continued)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Henry Linneweh (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Jeroen van Aart (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction William Pitcock (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction James Hess (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction David Krider (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction William Pitcock (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Ernie Rubi (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Robert Brockway (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Larry Sheldon (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction William Pitcock (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Joe Greco (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 29)
- Re: Terry Childs conviction Henry Linneweh (Apr 29)