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Re: legacy /8
From: Mark Smith <nanog () 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc nosense org>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:53:41 +0930
On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:01:36 -0700 joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> wrote:
On 4/3/2010 6:15 PM, Mark Smith wrote:Ever used IPX or Appletalk? If you haven't, then you don't know how simple and capable networking can be. And those protocols were designed more than 20 years ago, yet they're still more capable than IPv4.Zing, and there you have it! The hourglass is thin in the middle. One of if not the defining propteries of the ip protocol is what it doesn't do, which is virtually everything.
Well since it has become the only layer 3 protocol, shouldn't it be good enough or made good enough to do everything that's been done in the past and proven useful? IPv4 didn't succeed because it was significantly better than IPX or Appletalk. IPX has 32 bit network numbers (and 48 bit node addresses), so as a protocol it could have scaled to the Internet's size better than IPv4 has. However, the network effect kicked in - the Internet talks IPv4, so that's what people started running. People eventually seem to be rational about efficiency and said, "we're always going to have to run IPv4 because we always want to be connected to the Internet, so lets try to stop running multiple protocols that are nearly functionally equivalent." So Novell ported their services operating over TCP/IP, and Apple did the same. The thing that IPX and Appletalk did better than IPv4 was make networking much more convenient to operate. That was lost when they were abandoned. IPv6 will (hopefully) help bring them back. Regards, Mark.
Current thread:
- Re: legacy /8, (continued)
- Re: legacy /8 Mark Smith (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 David Barak (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 Mark Smith (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 Vadim Antonov (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 Adrian Chadd (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 Dan White (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 Zaid Ali (Apr 04)
- Re: legacy /8 Vadim Antonov (Apr 04)
- Re: legacy /8 Zaid Ali (Apr 04)
- Re: legacy /8 joel jaeggli (Apr 04)
- Re: legacy /8 Mark Smith (Apr 04)
- Re: legacy /8 James Hess (Apr 03)
- RE: legacy /8 Stephen Repetski (Apr 03)
- RE: legacy /8 Frank Bulk (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 William Warren (Apr 11)
- Re: legacy /8 Paul Vixie (Apr 11)
- Re: legacy /8 Owen DeLong (Apr 11)
- Re: legacy /8 David Conrad (Apr 11)
- Re: legacy /8 Paul Vixie (Apr 11)
- Re: legacy /8 David Conrad (Apr 11)
- Re: legacy /8 Paul Vixie (Apr 11)