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Re: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a contrary opinion


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 22:04:33 -0800


On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen () delong com]
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:11 PM
To: Jared Mauch
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a contrary opinion

On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:

You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your dialtone.
Very few things home run to the co these days. It's unlikely any hut has
more than 24 hours of battery.

I know this is true where FTTN overlays have been built. However, in the
majority of California, at least, that is still more the exception than
the
rule and there is usually a Cat-3 Copper home-run for local dialtone.

[Frank Bulk]
Here in the midwest each and every of the telcos that I've talked to or
worked with feeds dialtone for their DSL customers from the same equipment
that serves the DSL.  To do otherwise would require a splitter shelf in each
node.

In California, that is, by and large, the CO.


I have talked to local techs that make the same trip each shift to fuel
the generator during regular or minor power outages. Anything major,
expect the service to die.

If nothing else, I expect various other components in the system (trunk
overload, switch dialtone exhaustion, etc.)
in anything major anyway.

However, 24 hours of dialtone after something happens still exceeds the
average cablemodem duration after the
power flickers.

[Frank Bulk]
Some MSOs (including ourselves) have power systems (e.g. Alpha) in place
throughout the plant to provide backup power for at least some time.


Does that back up the cablemodem in the residence? If not, game over.

Owen



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