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Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks
From: Chuck Anderson <cra () WPI EDU>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 02:54:37 -0500
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 01:59:33PM -0500, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
A couple of reasons.. Neutral current, more power delivered using less copper, etc. Personally, I like delivering two L21-30's per rack and call it day - allows for a comfortable 8kw per rack in 2N+1 redundancy. And, it still has a neutral if it's needed, which we hope it isn't.
Here's a question for you. How do you calculate the total current & power capacity of a L21-20 or L21-30, and how do you do the calculations in order to balance the load between the phase legs? This seems like it would be a trivial thing to do, but given that the three legs are 120 degrees out of phase with each other, I don't think you can just do normal addition. For example, I have APC AP7961 3-phase PDUs with L21-20 plugs. The management interface claims a maximum load per phase of 16A (which I believe is the 80% derating of 20A required by NEC). Does this mean I can draw 16A * 3, or 48A total if I have a perfectly equal balance? Also, how does this relate to power, i.e. how many kVA or kW does this provide? 16A * 208V * 3 phases ~= 10 kVA? On another note, how do you calculate N+1 power feeds in your racks? If you have 2 PDUs fed from two different branch circuits/UPSes/etc. do you just set your PDU load alarm thresholds at 50% of the max rating of each PDU and never load them beyond that point, so that if you lose one PDU/branch circuit/UPS and the dual-power servers transfer their load over to the other side, it doesn't get overloaded? That would be 8A on each phase in the case of my AP7961's. Of course, things get complicated when you have a mix of single- and dual-power servers, especially if you have server admins who don't keep you apprised as to the types of equipment that are installed there as things change over time...
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- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks, (continued)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Lamar Owen (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Lamar Owen (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Justin M. Streiner (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Jameel Akari (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Seth Mattinen (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks William Herrin (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Owen DeLong (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Lamar Owen (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Jeremy Bresley (Dec 02)
- RE: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Alex Rubenstein (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Chuck Anderson (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Gary Buhrmaster (Dec 03)
- RE: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Alex Rubenstein (Dec 03)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Lamar Owen (Dec 04)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Chuck Anderson (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Kevin Stange (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Christopher Phillips (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks William Pitcock (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Gary Buhrmaster (Dec 03)
- RE: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Alex Rubenstein (Dec 03)
- RE: Want to move to all 208V for server racks David Hubbard (Dec 02)
- Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks Jay Nakamura (Dec 02)