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Re: Mastercard problems


From: Joseph Prasad <joseph.prasad () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 05:14:02 -0800

here is the audio from BBC Radio 4.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11935539



On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Paul Thornton <prt () prt org> wrote:

On 08/12/2010 20:42, Jack Bates wrote:

Of course, it's debatable if use of LOIC is enough to convict. You'd
have to first prove the person installed it themselves, and then you'd
have to prove that they knew it would be used for illegal purposes.


Earlier this morning there were two people interviewed on the BBC radio 4
Today program (this is considered the BBC's flagship morning news/current
affairs show on their serious nationwide talk radio station) about this -
one was a security consultant and another was a member of/spokesman for the
'operation payback' group.  One wonders why the Met Police didn't have
someone waiting to have a quiet chat with the latter when he left the
studio.

Both of them said that people had been voluntarily downloading and
installing botnet clients on their PCs in order to take part in these DDoS
attacks.  Ignoring, for a moment, the stupidity of such action it is hard to
see how you'd be able to argue that this was *not* going to be used for
illegal purposes.

The other amusing part of the interview was when the security consultant
started off very well explaining a DDoS in layman's terms, but then veered
off using the terms HTTP, UDP and IP in one sentence causing the presenter
to intervene as it "was getting a tad too technical there".

Paul.




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