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Re: [Operational] Internet Police
From: William McCall <william.mccall () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:44:53 -0600
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Lamar Owen <lowen () pari edu> wrote:
On Thursday, December 09, 2010 01:26:30 pm Dobbins, Roland wrote:On Dec 10, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Michael Smith wrote:"front lines of this "cyberwar"?Warfare isn't the correct metaphor.Espionage/covert action is the correct metaphor.In reality DoS threats/execution of those threats/ 'pwning' / website vandalism are all forms of terrorism. An easily pronounceable version with a 'net-' 'e-' or even 'cyber-' prefix..... is difficult.
Terrorism? Hell, I guess you're right since the definition of "terrorism" seems to extend to anything remotely criminal and scary. Especially if more than one person is involved. I bet the old school terrorists who believed terrorism required massive panic are quite disturbed by this lowered bar for success. I think thats a lot of undue credit given to basic criminal behavior and watching the boogieman come out because the perpetrators either can't be stopped or the reality that SPs apparently don't care to stop it. To the folks out there that presently work for an SP, if someone called you (or the relevant department) and gave you a list of end-user IPs that were DDoSing this person/entity, how long would you take to verify and stop the end user's stream of crap? Furthermore, what is the actual incentive to do something about it? -- William McCall
Current thread:
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police, (continued)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Randy Bush (Dec 09)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 09)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Jorge Amodio (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Dobbins, Roland (Dec 09)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police mikea (Dec 09)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Robert E. Seastrom (Dec 09)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Dobbins, Roland (Dec 09)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Bill Woodcock (Dec 09)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police mikea (Dec 09)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Lamar Owen (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police J. Oquendo (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police William McCall (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Jack Bates (Dec 10)
- RE: [Operational] Internet Police George Bonser (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Jack Bates (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Paul Graydon (Dec 10)
- RE: [Operational] Internet Police George Bonser (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Paul Graydon (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Jack Bates (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police JC Dill (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Michael Smith (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Lamar Owen (Dec 10)