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Re: Google to offer fiber to end users
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:17:21 -0800
James Hess wrote:
For now.. with 1gigabit residential connections, BCP 38 OUGHT to be Google's answer. If Google handles that properly, they _should_ make it mandatory that all traffic from residential customers be filtered, in all cases, in order to only forward packets with their legitimately assigned or registry-issued publicly verifiable IP prefix(es) in the IP source field. Must be mandatory even for 'resellers', otherwise there's no point.
The amount of DOS that is spoofed today is by all reports significantly lower as percentage of overall DOS than it was in say 2000. BCP 38 is all fine and dandy, and you should implement it, but it's not going to stop the botnets.
And Google should provide _reasonable_ response to investigate manual abuse reports to well-publicized points of contact which go directly to a well-staffed dedicated abuse team, with authority and a clear and expeditious resolution process, as a bare minimum, and in addition to any and all automatic measures. P.S. reasonable abuse response is not defined as a 4-day delayed answer to a 'help, no contact addresses will answer me' post on nanog (long after automated processes finally kicked in).. Reasonable response to a continuous 1gigabit flood or 100 kilopacket flood should be less than 12 hours. If they think things through carefully (rather than copy+paste Google groups e-mail abuse management), it'll probably be alright -- -J
Current thread:
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users, (continued)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Joel Esler (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Jorge Amodio (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users ck (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Henry Linneweh (Feb 10)
- RE: Google to offer fiber to end users David Hubbard (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users James Jones (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Florian Weimer (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Tony Varriale (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Jeffrey Lyon (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users James Hess (Feb 10)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Joel Jaeggli (Feb 12)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Jared Mauch (Feb 12)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Anton Kapela (Feb 13)
- Re: Google to offer fiber to end users Joel Jaeggli (Feb 11)
- RE: Google to offer fiber to end users David Hubbard (Feb 10)
- dark fiber James Jones (Feb 10)
- Re: dark fiber Charles N Wyble (Feb 10)
- Re: dark fiber Jared Mauch (Feb 10)
- Re: dark fiber James Jones (Feb 10)
- Re: dark fiber Martin Hannigan (Feb 10)
- Re: dark fiber Deric Kwok (Feb 11)
- dark fiber James Jones (Feb 10)