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Re: Google to offer fiber to end users


From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:17:21 -0800

James Hess wrote:
For now.. with 1gigabit residential connections,  BCP 38  OUGHT to be
Google's answer.  If Google handles that properly,  they  _should_
make it mandatory that all traffic  from residential customers be
filtered, in all cases,   in order to  only forward   packets with
their  legitimately assigned  or registry-issued publicly verifiable
IP prefix(es)  in the  IP source field.     Must be mandatory even for
 'resellers',  otherwise there's no point.

The  amount of DOS that is spoofed today is by all reports significantly
lower as percentage of overall DOS than it was in say 2000.

BCP 38 is all fine and dandy, and you should implement it, but it's not
going to stop the botnets.


And Google should provide _reasonable_ response to investigate  manual
abuse reports to well-publicized points of contact which go directly
to a well-staffed dedicated abuse team, with authority and a clear and
expeditious resolution process,  as a bare minimum,  and in addition
to  any and all automatic measures.


P.S.  reasonable abuse response is not defined as a  4-day delayed
answer to a  'help, no contact addresses will answer me' post on nanog
(long after automated processes finally kicked in)..     Reasonable
response to a  continuous  1gigabit  flood  or  100 kilopacket  flood
should be  less than 12 hours.

If  they think things through carefully   (rather than copy+paste
Google groups e-mail abuse management),    it'll  probably be alright

--
-J



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