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Re: Using /126 for IPv6 router links


From: Mark Smith <nanog () 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc nosense org>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:11:30 +1030

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:26:34 +1100
Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:


In message <m2sk9rsobb.wl%randy () psg com>, Randy Bush writes:
the general intent of a class B allocation is that it is large enough
for nearly everybody, with nearly everybody including all but the
largest of organisations.
That would, indeed, work if we weren't short of class B networks
to assign.
Would you clarify? Seriously?

we used to think we were not short of class B networks

Really?  Do you have a citation?  It should have been clear to
anyone that thought about it that IPv4 address where not big enough
to support every man and his dog having a network.


If you dig into it a bit, you find that the original addressing plan
was a single network octet, and 3 node octets. The earliest document I
can find that describes 32 bit IP addresses is Internet Engineering Note
5, March 1977 (http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/ien/ien5.pdf), page 68 (69 of
the .pdf), and a diagram on page 74 (page 75 .pdf).

IEN 91, May 1979 (http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/ien/ien91.txt), also
describes the earliest 32 bit IP address format, and how to map link
layer addresses, such as ARPANET addresses into the "Local address"
portion.

RFC760, January 1980, also specifies that format of addressing. RFC791,
September 1981, is where it changed to classes. So IP addresses were
structured and deployed with a single network octet and 3 node octets
for more than 4 years.

I think that is evidence that 32 bit IP addresses were never originally
designed to support a world wide network that the Internet has become,
that fixed network and node portions are the preferred way to do
network addressing (and if you look at all the other protocols that
have existed, excepting CLNS (a "fixed" copy of IPv4 apparently),
they've all done it that way), and that classes, subnets and then
classless addressing have all fundamentally been very been neat hacks
to make 32 bit addressing support far more devices than was ever
expected.

I know when I was getting my first class B address block in '88
that it was obviously not sustainable but I'll get one while I can
because that and class C's were all that were available and it could
be justified under the rules as they stood then.

CIDR when it came along didn't change my opinion, though it did
delay the inevitable as did PNAT.

I don't see the same thing with /48 as the basic allocation provided
RIR's don't do greenfield all the time but instead re-allocate
blocks when they are not maintained.  Always doing greenfield
allocations will exhaust any allocation scheme in time.

Mark

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