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RE: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?


From: "Endresen Even" <Even.Endresen () bkk no>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 23:16:55 +0100

Couldn't PBB or even Q-in-Q provide that isolation as well, at least for
point-to-point services? I must say that I don't personally have much
experience with those, because we tend to connect our customers to
EoMPLS-capable routers directly.

QinQ does nothing to reduce the number of MAC addresses required.
PBB can do this, but there is still not a lot of  PBB equipment
available.

 

PBB would help a lot, but as far as Cisco equipment is concerned, it is only supported on 7600 with ES40 line cards: 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/cether/configuration/guide/ce_mac_evc_pbb_ps6922_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html

On my wish list is PBB support on access layer switches, like the Cisco ME3400. This would bring the benefits of 
tunneling out to the very edge of the network.

We have an MPLS core with a hierarchial Ethernet layer 2 access network between the core and the customer. Typically 
there are two or three switches between the the PE node and the customer. Even though we are building the MPLS network 
further out towards the edge, there will always be a layer 2 access network.

It is the switches in the access network that is my concern. We have seen some rather strange problems over the years, 
like customer nodes that flood MAC address tables with spoofed MAC addresses, and frames that are reflected, causing 
switches to continually re-learn the same MAC-addresses from different ports. MAC header encapsulation at the very edge 
of the network would protect the switches in the access layer, and thereby make the service providers more willing to 
offer more transparent products to their customers.

Regards,
Even

 


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