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Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:40:53 +0200
On 2010-07-29 19:32, Tim Franklin wrote:
Why waste valuable people's time to conserve nearly valueless renewable resources?See my earlier comments on "upsell" and "control". While you have some ISPs starting from the mentality that gives us "accepting incoming connections is a chargeable extra", they're also going to be convinced that there's a revenue opportunity in segmenting customers who want N of some resource from those who want 2N, 4N, ... That the resource in question is, for all practical purposes, both free and infinite (cue someone with a 'tragedy of the commons' analysis) does not factor - if they want more, they must pay more!
Ever thought about this tiny thing called BANDWIDTH USAGE? It is what ISPs are charged by their transit providers / peers, thus why not do that do users? Oh yeah.. something with overselling capacity.... but that is not a big issue either, you can probably figure out what the average is, the lowest and the highest and come up with a good competitive pricing strategy from there. And there is another advantage there: the people who use a lot of bandwidth are actually paying for it then, thus you don't have to ratelimit these folks, as heck, they pay for it! Need more capacity in an area, well, no problem they paid for it already, thus do calculate that into your pricing too of course ;) Thus don't charge folks for the amount of IP addresses they have, that is not what you get charged for by your transit/peers either. Greets, Jeroen
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- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course, (continued)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course David Conrad (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Matthew Walster (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Tore Anderson (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Matthew Walster (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course JC Dill (Jul 30)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Tim Franklin (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Jeroen Massar (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Tim Franklin (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Tim Franklin (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Stephen Sprunk (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 29)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Mark Smith (Jul 22)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Joe Maimon (Jul 22)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Owen DeLong (Jul 22)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Joe Maimon (Jul 23)
- Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course Mark Smith (Jul 23)