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Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers


From: Jorge Amodio <jmamodio () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:01:35 -0500

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why you will penalize with fees the end customer that may not know
that her system has been compromised because what she pays to Joe
Antivirus/Security/Firewall/Crapware is not effective against Billy
the nerd insecure code programmer ?

No doubt ISPs can do something, but without additional regulation and
safeguards that they wont be sued for sniffing or filtering traffic
nothing will ever happen. Do we want more/any regulation ? who will
oversee it ?

On the other hand think as the Internet being a vast ocean where the
bad guys keep dumping garbage, you can't control or filter the
currents that are constantly changing and you neither can inspect
every water molecule, then what do you do to find and penalize the
ones that drop or permit their systems to drop garbage on the ocean ?

My .02
Jorge

I'm fond of getting the issues addressed by getting the ISPs to be involved
with the problem.   If that means users get charged "clean up" fees instead
of a "security" fee, that's fine.

ISPs remain in the unique position of being able to identify the customer,
the machine, and to verify the traffic.  It can be done.


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