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Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers
From: JC Dill <jcdill.lists () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:59:28 -0700
Jorge Amodio wrote:
None of this needs to be done for free. There needs to be a "security fee" charged _all_ customers, which would fund the abuse desk.With more than 100,000,000 compromised computers out there, it's really time for us to step up to the plate, and make this happen.Or you should send the bill to the company that created the software that facilitated to get so many computers compromised, some folks in Redmond have a large chunk of money on the bank.
I'm still truly amazed that no one has sic'd a lawyer on Microsoft for creating an "attractive nuisance" - an operating system that is too easily hacked and used to attack innocent victims, and where others have to pay to clean up after Microsoft's mess.
For instance, if you build a pool in your backyard, and you don't properly fence it, and kids illegally trespass on your property to get in to your pool, and they get hurt, you will be sued and will be held liable. You built this dangerous thing, and you didn't properly secure (fence it), and it's your responsibility even when someone *illegally* gains access and hurts themselves (or others). There are numerous other examples of "attractive nuisances" where individuals and companies are held liable for injuries caused by people who illegally gained access to improperly secured property and items. Why hasn't *someone* brought this up with Microsoft and Windows?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractive_nuisance_doctrine jc
Current thread:
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers, (continued)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 08)
- RE: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Aaron Wendel (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Jorge Amodio (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Gadi Evron (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Hank Nussbacher (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Dave Rand (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Jorge Amodio (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers J. Oquendo (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers JC Dill (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Paul Ferguson (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Paul Ferguson (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Jorge Amodio (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Barry Shein (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Henry Yen (Jun 10)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Larry Sheldon (Jun 10)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Chris Adams (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers JC Dill (Jun 09)