Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers

["J. Oquendo" <sil () infiltrated net>]

Brielle Bruns wrote:
> Problem is, there's no financial penalties for providers who ignore
> abuse coming from their network.
>
> DNSbl lists work only because after a while, providers can't ignore
> their customer complaints and exodus when they dig deep into the
> bottom line.
>
> We've got several large scale IP blocks in place in the AHBL due to
> this exact problem - providers know there's abuse going on, they won't
> terminate the customers or deal with it, because they are more then
> happy to take money.
>
> Legit customers get caught in the cross-fire, and they suffer - but at
> the same time, those legit customers are the only ones that will be
> able to force a change on said provider.
>
> They contact us, and act all innocent, and tell people we're being
> unreasonable, neglecting to tell people at the same time that the
> 'unreasonable' DNSbl maintainer only wants for them to do a simple
> task that thousands of other providers and administrators have done
> before.
I know it's akin to Apples and Oranges but maybe a "network forfeiture"
(http://www.lectlaw.com/def/f054.htm) clause be drafted. Surely there
should be no outcry for stating: "If your network is dirty, its gone
including all your equipment" I wonder how fast some network operators
would have their networks. Again, re-visiting re-hashed threads:
http://www.mail-archive.com/nanog () merit edu/msg50472.html
(http://www.mail-archive.com/nanog () merit edu/msg50472.html) Surely a
vast majority have to be tired of the garbage coming from your own
networks and others. I can tell you I'm tired of my phone ringing
because some tollfraudster keeps thinking he's making uber calls when
he's stuck in one of my honeypots.


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