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Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?"
From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner () cluebyfour org>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:41:32 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:35:37 EDT, "Justin M. Streiner" said:I don't see TDM going away entirely any time soon because it still comes in handy for things like out-of-band management, etc, plus nowadays there is lots of TDM gear on the secondary market that can be picked up dirt-cheap.All the same, the price of gear dropping through the floor on the secondary market is usually a pretty good indication that the technology is played out, because supply-and-demand says that demand for the gear will keep the price propped up until the demand goes away - which usually means the tech is played out.
I don't know too many people who build their out-of-band management networks out of the latest and greatest gear. There are tons of Cisco 2511s, 2611s, etc that have been given second lives as terminal servers.
There are also lots of areas where Ethernet transports are either ridiculously expensive because the carrier wants me to partially subsidize their initial build costs, or it's just flat-out not available. There are also areas where I've seen it delivered over n x STS-1's bonded together, so the Ethernet frames are still riding over a SONET transport in many cases.
jms
Current thread:
- "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Rick Ernst (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Steve Meuse (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Michael Thomas (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Michael Thomas (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Bret Clark (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Justin M. Streiner (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Justin M. Streiner (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" joel jaeggli (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Stefan (Mar 29)
- RE: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Dylan Ebner (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Steve Meuse (Mar 26)
- RE: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Olsen, Jason (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Jared Mauch (Mar 26)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Frank A. Coluccio (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Frank A. Coluccio (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Michael Sokolov (Mar 26)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Kevin Oberman (Mar 29)
(Thread continues...)
- Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?" Steve Meuse (Mar 26)