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Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)


From: Shon Elliott <shon () unwiredbb com>
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:57:14 -0800

Hmm... unless I'm completely off, 1,080. About enough for a DS3. Maybe half of a
DS3.. as long as it overreaches their T1 or HDSL capacity. It seems that while
DS3 is a copper product, it's typically delivered to the site broken off of a
fiber node. Wouldn't want to see the installation bill of that, though. That's
been my experience of AT&T here in California.

-S



Jared Mauch wrote:
On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Akyol, Bora A wrote:

Michael

I think for the people in the situation you are describing, the best bet would be
one of the wireless technologies. Someone on the thread mentioned LTE (which should
be coming out in a couple years time), and to that we can add WiMAX and 
even the 3G/3.5G HSPDA type wireless. The prices will not be USD19.99 but for
less than USD70/month it is quite possible to get reasonable high speed Internet 
access. Will it be as fast as GigE to the house? No. But it will certainly support
most web apps. The only challenge is that some of these wireless technologies still have
much higher latency when compared to the wired DSL/cable modem links.

Some of the WISP hardware is getting "cheap".  It's no longer $500 NIUs, you can get something that can go a fair 
distance at high speeds for ~$80.

http://www.ubnt.com/products/nanobridge.php

You can find used microwave (unlicensed & licensed) equipment "cheap" as well. ($1-2k per pair/hop).

The FTTH equipment is ~$600 for 20km reach @ 1Gb/s.

Life is getting interesting these days.. I'm seeing interest in solving this last mile issue, but I suspect some 
networks will eventually be forced to abandon their DSL strategy (ATT, Qwest) before too long.  They are going to 
start to lose out to the competitors.  Verizon seems to be the only (large) US based provider with a decent strategy.

I'm expecting regulatory intervention in the next few years to actually require universal broadband access from the 
iLECs, and the only way to reach these further distances is with FTTH gear (cost effectively). 

I have wondered, how many POTS lines do I need to order to get them to build fiber/access to me.  Anyone have 
guesses/data?

- Jared



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