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Re: IP4 Space
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:04:31 -0800
On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Bill Bogstad wrote:
First, it's best not to approach this as switching to IPv6. Think of it, instead,On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Daniel Senie <dts () senie com> wrote:Well, it's like this... there's still no native IPv6 connectivity in most data centers, residences, >businesses or wireless, most vendors of networking equipment have not had a lot of mileage on >their IPv6 code if they even have it fully working, and, frankly, the IPv6 community has been >predicting a falling sky for so long that people just gave up listening. Add in a whole lot of other bits >of argument that just exasperate those dealing with today's problems, and it's pretty easy to >understand, if you've not been one of the ones pushing IPV6 for all these years, that there's a lot of >listener fatigue.I fall into this category, but I'm trying to get better. This may be OT for this forum, but as someone whose network admin hat has mostly been at the LAN/MAN level, I'm less concerned about IPv6 peering, etc. then I am with what applications/servers don't play well with IPv6 and how do I work around those issues. Where does one go to find out how organizations have switched their internal IT infrastructure to IPv6? Does it make sense/work to do this for internal operations even if our outside connections are IPv4 only (forget about tunneling). Even more mundane questions like how to deal with IPv4 only networked printers when everything else is IPv6?
for now, as adding IPv6 capability to as much of your IPv4 environment as possible. I don't know of any applications which are negatively impacted by havingIPv6 capabilities. Several end-user applications do not play well if you remove their IPv4 capabilities, although that is getting fixed for the most
popular internet-oriented ones fairly quickly. The most important things to get on dual stack initially all play well. These would include your internet-facing services such as your mail gateway, web servers, etc.
If anyone in the Boston metro area wants to present to the local system administrators group (www.bblisa.org) on why we should care (and more importantly what to do) please contact me off list. We're mostly a bunch of senior Unix system administrator who are comfortable in our IPv4 world and (I think) see IPv6 as a whole bunch of work to mostly get back to where we already are. We've all heard about the coming address apocalypse, but it always seems somewhere in the distant future.
If you can get 50 people or more in the room, I'd be happy to come present to your group. Hurricane Electric will pay my travel. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: IP4 Space, (continued)
- Re: IP4 Space Lamar Owen (Mar 26)
- Re: IP4 Space - IVI et.al. bmanning (Mar 27)
- Re: IP4 Space - IVI et.al. Simon Leinen (Mar 28)
- Re: IP4 Space - IVI et.al. bmanning (Mar 28)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Andrews (Mar 26)
- Re: IP4 Space Lamar Owen (Mar 26)
- Re: IP4 Space Doug Barton (Mar 29)
- Re: IP4 Space Lamar Owen (Mar 30)
- Re: IP4 Space Daniel Senie (Mar 10)
- Re: IP4 Space Bill Bogstad (Mar 11)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 11)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Andrews (Mar 11)
- OT: Anyone seeing these sorts of probes? Port 46993 udp? Joe (Mar 11)
- Re: OT: Anyone seeing these sorts of probes? Port 46993 udp? James Hess (Mar 11)
- Re: OT: Anyone seeing these sorts of probes? Port 46993 udp? Clinton Popovich (Mar 12)
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- Re: IP4 Space Tim Chown (Mar 12)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 10)
- Re: IP4 Space Jens Link (Mar 10)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 10)
- Re: IP4 Space Steve Bertrand (Mar 04)
- Re: IP4 Space - the lie bmanning (Mar 05)