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Re: IP4 Space
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:46:54 -0700
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Mark Newton <newton () internode com au> wrote:
On 24/03/2010, at 4:10 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:it seems to me that we'll have widespread ipv4 for +10 years at least,How many 10 year old pieces of kit do you have on your network?
it's not my network anymore (or not the one I work on anymore) but... 702 had +400 7500's of 1996 vintage when I left, 703 had somewhere near 200 or so of similar vintage 7500's and 7200's... Sprint still does T1 agg on 7500's. ATT I'm sure has 75's in the network as well. If there's low margin and no 'cost' to run the gear, why would I upgrade??
Ten years ago we were routing appletalk and IPX. Still doing that now?
apples and oranges.
I'd expect that v4 will still exist in legacy form behind firewalls, but I think its deprecation on the public internet will happen a lot faster than anyone expects.
maybe you're right, but... I doubt it.
I agree that v6 deployments seem to be getting better/faster/stronger... I think that's good news, but we'll still be paying the v4 piper for a while.Only until v4 becomes more expensive (using whatever metric matters to you) than v6.
I have v4, it's not going to be anymore expensive than it is today for me... for new folks sure, but I've got mine.
After you pass that tipping point, v4 deployment will stop dead.
doubtful. we could go back and forth with this pingpong ball for ... ever, but the point here is no one knows, it's likely different than either of us think, and in the mean time fun will ensue! -chris
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- Re: IP4 Space, (continued)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Newton (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space bmanning (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Newton (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space bmanning (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Michael Dillon (Mar 24)
- [OT] Old kit (was:Re: IP4 Space) Lamar Owen (Mar 26)
- Re: [OT] Old kit (was:Re: IP4 Space) Owen DeLong (Mar 26)
- Re: [OT] Old kit Joel Jaeggli (Mar 26)
- Re: [OT] Old kit (was:Re: IP4 Space) Jorge Amodio (Mar 26)
- Re: IP4 Space William Herrin (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Christopher Morrow (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space bmanning (Mar 24)
- RE: IP4 Space Frank Bulk - iName.com (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Dave Israel (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Bill Stewart (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Steven Bellovin (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Lamar Owen (Mar 26)
- Re: IP4 Space David Conrad (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space isabel dias (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Nathan Ward (Mar 22)