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Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)
From: Mark Smith <nanog () 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc nosense org>
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 09:56:09 +1030
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:32:30 -0700 "Scott Weeks" <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote:
It's really quiet in here. So, for some Friday fun let me whap at the hornets nest and see what happens... >;-) http://www.ionary.com/PSOC-MovingBeyondTCP.pdf
Who ever wrote that doesn't know what they're talking about. LISP is not the IETF's proposed solution (the IETF don't have one, the IRTF do), and streaming media was seen to be one of the early applications of the Internet - these types of applications is why TCP was split out of IP, why UDP was invented, and why UDP has has a significantly different protocol number to TCP.
-------------------------------------------------------------- "NAT is your friend" "IP doesn’t handle addressing or multi-homing well at all" "The IETF’s proposed solution to the multihoming problem is called LISP, for Locator/Identifier Separation Protocol. This is already running into scaling problems, and even when it works, it has a failover time on the order of thirty seconds." "TCP and IP were split the wrong way" "IP lacks an addressing architecture" "Packet switching was designed to complement, not replace, the telephone network. IP was not optimized to support streaming media, such as voice, audio broadcasting, and video; it was designed to not be the telephone network." -------------------------------------------------------------- And so, "...the first principle of our proposed new network architecture: Layers are recursive." I can hear the angry hornets buzzing already. :-) scott
Current thread:
- RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Scott Weeks (Nov 05)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 05)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Marshall Eubanks (Nov 05)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Marshall Eubanks (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Marshall Eubanks (Nov 05)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 05)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 05)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 06)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 06)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Michael Hallgren (Nov 06)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 06)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Matthew Petach (Nov 06)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 06)