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Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:18:29 -0800
In summary: Level3 is crying foul while their CDN competitors have quietly bought into Comcast's racket. I applaud Level3 for calling attention to this matter. Owen (Speaking strictly for myself) On Nov 29, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Ren Provo wrote:
http://blog.comcast.com/2010/11/comcast-comments-on-level-3.html On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Dave CROCKER <dhc2 () dcrocker net> wrote:On 11/29/2010 2:40 PM, Rettke, Brian wrote:Essentially, the question is who has to pay for the infrastructure to support the bandwidth requirements of all of these new and booming streaming ventures. I can understand both the side taken by Comcast, and the side of the content provider, but I don't think it's as simple as the slogans spewed out regarding "Net Neutrality", which has become so misused and abused as a term that I don't think it has any credulous value remaining.I find it helpful to distinguish "participant neutrality" from "service neutrality". The first says that you and I pay the same rate. The second says the my email costs the same as my voip. As described, it appears that Level3 is being singled out, which makes for participant non-neutrality. On the other hand, if Comcast were charging itself for xfinity traffic, this might qualify as service non-neutrality (assuming there is a plausible meaning to "charging itself"... d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
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