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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:33:55 -0500
On 9/16/2010 8:19 AM, Chris Boyd wrote:
<end user> I DO have a problem with a content provider paying to get priority access on the last mile. I have no particular interest in any of the content that Yahoo provides, but I do have an interest in downloading my Linux updates via torrents. Should I have to go back and bid against Yahoo just so I can get my packets in a timely fashion? </end user>
Depends on what constitutes last mile, really. For me, it would be prioritizing traffic over a customer's saturated DSL line (ie, you paid for and saturated your bandwidth). Although, to be honest, I've been extremely tempted to just prioritize for free.
Your case in point, if you are streaming video from Y' and doing a bittorrent, there is still the presumption that you want the bittorrent to play nice and let your video stream.
Of course, proper prioritizing really requires both sides working together. I've had more issues with upstreams saturating and killing a video stream than I have with downstreams saturating.
I understand that the last mile is going to be a congestion point, but the idea of allowing a bidding war for priority access for that capacity seems to be a path to madness.
It seems pointless, really. Customer has to request the content, for the priority to matter. It only makes sense in a shared pipe, and that's where bottlenecks shouldn't be (ie, customer A's video shouldn't have precedence over Customer B's p2p (which may be valid WoW updates, iso downloads, etc).
Jack
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,, (continued)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Matthew Palmer (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, George Bonser (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joe Greco (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Matthew Palmer (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Dobbins, Roland (Sep 20)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, William Herrin (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, George Bonser (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joe Greco (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Jack Bates (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Marshall Eubanks (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? George Bonser (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Chris Woodfield (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? George Bonser (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? sthaug (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Chris Woodfield (Sep 17)