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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
From: Bill Stewart <nonobvious () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:12:54 -0700
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Steven Bellovin <smb () cs columbia edu> wrote:
No, they bought AT&T, which [...] But yes, SBC is the controlling piece of the new AT&T.
As for the two /8s -- not quite. Back in the 1980s, AT&T got 12/8. We soon learned that we couldn't make good use of it, since multiple levels of subnetting didn't exist. We offered it back to Postel in exchange for 135/8 -- i.e., the equivalent in class B space -- but Postel said to keep 12/8 since no one else could use it, either. This was all long before addresses were tight. When AT&T decided to go into the ISP business, circa 1995, 12/8 was still lying around, unused except for a security experiment I was running.* However, a good chunk of 135/8 went to Lucent (now Alcatel-Lucent) in 1996, though I don't know how much.
---- Thanks; Bill Note that this isn't my regular email account - It's still experimental so far. And Google probably logs and indexes everything you send it.
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?, (continued)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Owen DeLong (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Barry Shein (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Barry Shein (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Sean Donelan (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Fred Baker (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bruce Williams (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Barry Shein (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Steven Bellovin (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bill Stewart (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bill Stewart (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Steven Bellovin (Sep 19)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Sean Donelan (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Allen Simpson (Sep 14)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? gordon b slater (Sep 15)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Chris Boyd (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joe Greco (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, William Herrin (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Tony Varriale (Sep 18)