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Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone?
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:46:22 -0400
On Apr 29, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Tim Durack wrote:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> wrote:On 4/29/11 10:12 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: It turns out that as a content provider you can unicast video delivery without coordinating the admission of your content onto every edge eyeball network on the planet. It's cheap enough that it makes money on fairly straght-forward internet business models and it apparently scales to meet the needs of justin beiber fans.Imagine: multicast internet radio! Awesome! I have a feeling streaming is going to stay unicast. Multicast is a great technical solution in search of a good business problem.
I think this is sadly the truth. There are some problems that can be solved by multicast, but I've seen the number of customer requests for v4 multicast go by the wayside over the years. The only people that are generally interested are the conference venues for technical things, e.g.: RIPE, ARIN/NANOG, APRICOT, etc. Plus, conferences like NANOG have beamed the video back to some other site for fanout as well, for both unicast and multicast. The problems at Layer7 and below are solvable with market forces. They're all 8/9 issues, about the content providers wanting to be paid-per-subscriber/viewer. They don't want to know how few people are actually tuned in at that moment in some cases. I'm sure they want to be paid some fraction of that cost that goes to your TV Transport conduit provider. - Jared (who buys and downloads shows, and pays nothing for others as they come OTA "free")
Current thread:
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone?, (continued)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? david raistrick (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? david raistrick (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Saku Ytti (Apr 29)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Robert Bonomi (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 30)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Daniel Roesen (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Martin Millnert (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jared Mauch (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Chris Adams (Apr 30)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jared Mauch (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) George Bonser (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Lamar Owen (Apr 30)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Lamar Owen (Apr 30)