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Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again...
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:02:40 -0800
In a message written on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:54:55AM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote:
At that point why should they sell iron at all? Seems like you get all of the downside of owning the iron, and all of the downside of paying for a cloud based service. Either you own what you own, or you pay for service that somebody else provides. This "you bought useless hardware unless you pay up" is really what's infuriating.
I didn't say the box should stop working, but that it should stop processing the subscription data. For instance Barracuda boxes do local bayesian filtering, which does not require a subscription, and should continue to work. But I'm also not sure why this is any more or less infuriating than other things in the real world. When my home was built I had to buy an electric meter, at my cost, so I could get electric _service_. If I don't pay the bill they turn me off, that hardware is now useless and I don't get to recoup that cost. Barracuda has bundled a hardware product with a service. Some people want it priced like a hardware product, some people want it priced like a service. That is fundamentally why they are in a no-win position from a customer relations perspective. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jay Ashworth (Dec 21)
- RE: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Nathan Eisenberg (Dec 21)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jeremy Parr (Dec 21)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Edward Dore (Dec 21)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Daniel Seagraves (Dec 21)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... David Swafford (Dec 21)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... James M Keller (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... PC (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Leo Bicknell (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Michael Thomas (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Leo Bicknell (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jon Lewis (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Michael Thomas (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... John Palmer (NANOG Acct) (Dec 23)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jeremy Parr (Dec 22)
- RE: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Eric J Esslinger (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jay Ashworth (Dec 21)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... William Herrin (Dec 23)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jimmy Hess (Dec 22)
- Re: Well Lookie Here, Barracuda Networks tries to get me to fall into their trap again... Jay Ashworth (Dec 23)