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Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...
From: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:17:40 -0800
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Scott Helms wrote:ISPs know it takes years to move a customer base. They should have been ready years ago. They still arn't ready. I was asking for what features to look for in a new CPE so that it won't need to be replaced when they turn on IPv6 and got this as a answer. It really isn't helpful.Mark, I certainly wasn't trying to be flip or short and for that I apologize. To answer the specific question on a CPE that depends both on what kind of access network you're connecting to as well as if its a service provider installed/supported device or one that a technical end user can support him/herself as those are very different use cases. The point I am trying to communicate is that CPE issue not simple, straightforward, or cheap because in almost all of the non-DOCSIS cases we're looking at forklift upgrades.Yes, but, let's look at why that is... The Broadband Forum sat on its ass and ignored IPv6. They failed to publish IPv6 standards until November of last year. This delayed the implementations in PON and DSL systems. DOCSIS required forklift upgrades, too. The difference is that Cable Labs got out in front of the issue and IPv6 was one of many features that required an upgrade to DOCSIS 3. It's not like Broadband Forum didn't have this option. Sorry... I have little sympathy on that one.
3GPP was in front of it too, IPv6 was accounted for 10 years ago... but IPv6 3G will require new handsets for all (excluding Nokia, in some cases) due to the OEMs. For us in mobile, the issue right now is largely one of handset availability. Now that Nokia is married to Windows Phone 7, i am concerned they are taking a step backwards since Windows Phone 7 does not support cellular IPv6. Cameron ++++++++ http://groups.google.com/group/tmoipv6beta ++++++++
Current thread:
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer..., (continued)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Michael Thomas (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Jens Link (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Owen DeLong (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Scott Helms (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Seth Mattinen (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Mark Andrews (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Scott Helms (Feb 10)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Mark Andrews (Feb 10)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Scott Helms (Feb 11)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Owen DeLong (Feb 11)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Cameron Byrne (Feb 11)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... david raistrick (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Owen DeLong (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Jack Bates (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Jeff McAdams (Feb 09)
- RE: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... George Bonser (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Jeff McAdams (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Jeff Johnstone (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Jeff Johnstone (Feb 09)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 10)
- Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer... Mark Andrews (Feb 09)