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Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark
From: Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:56:35 -0500
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Jason LeBlanc <jml () packetpimp org> wrote:
I wonder if the price point will change. Having been in PAIX/S&D/Equinix facilities for several years things have certainly changed with regard to contract negotiations and pricing. Equinix is not very flexible. The shuffle of techs has also resulted in a much less helpful group to work with. On 02/02/2011 09:20 AM, Paul Vixie wrote:Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:22:39 -0500 From: Jeffrey Lyon<jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net> I'm sure everything will be fine in practice as others have indicated, I was merely making a point of the inherent conflict of interest.ah. if you mean "it's unusual" or "it's difficult" rather than "it cannot be" then i have no arguments. the reason PAIX got traction at all, coming late to the game (1995-ish) as we did, was because MFS was then able to charge circuit prices for many forms of cross connect down at MAE West. and i did face continuous pressure from MFN to go after a share of PAIX's carrier's circuit revenue. (which i never did and which none of my successors have done either.) noting, the game as moved on. if verizon behaves badly as terremark's owner then the presence of equinix in the market will act as a relief valve. i think the "neutral and commercial" model is very well established and that verizon will not want to be the only carrier in those facilities nor have their circuit-holders be the only customers for the real estate. it's an awful lot of space to use just as colo, and it's both over- and underbuilt for colo (vs. an IX). re:On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Paul Vixie<vixie () isc org> wrote:Jeffrey Lyon<jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net> writes:One cannot be owned by a carrier and remain carrier neutral. My two cents,my experience running PAIX when it was owned by MFN was not like you're saying.
You might try TelX, we've had good luck with them. -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark Paul Vixie (Feb 01)
- Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark Jeffrey Lyon (Feb 02)
- Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark Mehmet Akcin (Feb 02)
- Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark Paul Vixie (Feb 02)
- Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark Jason LeBlanc (Feb 02)
- Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark Jeffrey Lyon (Feb 02)
- Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark Jeffrey Lyon (Feb 02)