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Re: quietly....


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:29:56 -0800


On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Randy Carpenter wrote:

The concept of v4 to v6 addressing scale doesn't match the pricing
scale, though. Generally, I expect to see most ISPs find themselves
1 rank higher in the v6 model compared to v4, which effectively
doubles your price anyways. :)


Jack

Actually, so far, most ISPs are finding themselves one rank lower.

The exception is particularly small providers and there is a
combination of suggestion (about fees) and policy (Proposal 121)
effort underway to rectify that problem.

Owen

A specific example of the sizes of ISP I am working with:

Most of them have between a /17 and a /20 of address space.

If (hopefully when) Proposal 121 is adopted, all of the ones that are around a /17, should be getting a /28. Some of 
the ones that are /19 currently, would be getting a /28. While I wholeheartedly agree with Proposal 121, that 
represents 2 jumps in cost. These might represent some unusual situations, and might even fall under your definition 
of "particularly small."  I hope that if Proposal 121 does pass, that the fees are restructured so that /36, /32, 
/28, /24, and /20 have different fees that line up with X-small, Small, Medium, Large, and X-large, respectively.

-Randy

Randy,

Without proposal 121, they would fall into the /32 category and would be in the same pricing category as they are today.

I realize that if they get their maximum allowed allocation under proposal 121, they would be facing significant cost 
increases and I do sincerely hope that the board will address this issue promptly in the process of implementing 121 
when it passes.

However, my comment was targeted at the current situation pre-121. In the current situation, the only providers that 
pay more are those with less than a /20 who cannot get less than a /32 in IPv6. They are forced from the $1250 tier to 
the $2,250 pricing tier. Everyone else pays either the same or less under current policy.

Owen



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