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Re: quietly....
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:05:58 -0800
On Feb 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Jack Bates wrote:
On 2/4/2011 6:27 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:Hell, even without CPE doing it, many residential ISPs (regardless of NAT) block inbound traffic to consumers.Really? And they have subscribers? Surprising.Mark Andrews wrote:I run machines all the time that don't have firewall to protect them from the big wide world out there. I suspect we all do. Your not behind a external firewall when you are at NANOG or IETF. Everyone doesn't suddenly get "owned" because there isn't a external firewall. Modern OS's default to secure.Yes, and some of you thanked us for blocking RPC in the ISP or in the cable modems. Many such blocks are still in place in many ISPs as there was no reason to ever remove them. TCP/25 outbound is often blocked in many locations as well. Just because you don't notice the firewall, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We stay in business when you don't notice. :) Jack
True... If you review the NANOG archives you'll find that at least in the case of the port 25 absurdity, I have noticed and have railed against it. Owen
Current thread:
- RE: quietly...., (continued)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... david raistrick (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... david raistrick (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... david raistrick (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... R A Lichtensteiger (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Joel Jaeggli (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 04)
- RE: quietly.... George Bonser (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 04)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 05)
- RE: quietly.... Lee Howard (Feb 06)
- Re: quietly.... isabel dias (Feb 06)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 06)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 04)