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Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses


From: Paul Graydon <paul () paulgraydon co uk>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:26:27 -1000

I consider it to be very much part of the general attitude of news organisations towards the online content. It seems in general that very little editorial oversight takes place with online content, compared to what might appear in print. Often seems rather much like the content comes direct from the journalists, which any editor will tell you is generally a bad idea! Part of the problem has been perfectly demonstrated by this article. Having published something inaccurate and had lots of people jump on them in the comments, they've since updated and fixed the faults. Never mind that there are who knows how many people who have read it already and now have the wrong idea, as long as it's correct now, right?

Paul


On 01/27/2011 10:26 AM, Mark Keymer wrote:
What I don't understand is I can only guess they must have a IT team.
And Maybe even 1 or more people that view this list. Why don't they just
talk to there own staff about the issues? Maybe one of the IT guess saw
the issues talked about the articles and contacted the news team about
the bad info. I donno. I agree they kind of did a poor job on this.

If you work at FOX maybe you should help get the news guys on the right
page. :)

Sincerely,

Mark


On 1/27/2011 11:51 AM, George, Wes E [NTK] wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:jra () baylink com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:06 PM
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Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Johnson"<bjohnson () drtel com>
To be clear, FOX screwed this up big time, but that doesn't mean we
all need to get out our personal/political pitchforks and run them
out
of town. Take your Ritalin.  :-)
Fox didn't screw up, for a change, and Vint's quote appears in many
other news sources.  Apparently, I'm the only one on Nanog who knows
about this new thing called The Google.  :-)

Thinking that Fox "News" is not a reputable news source is not, indeed,
an opinion attributable *solely* to non-Republicans, and indeed, it's
easy
to prove in a documentary, non-partisan fashion.

[WES] Don't kid yourself, defending a "reputable news organization" for not
properly checking their facts on a technical story before publishing is
politically motivated too, especially when you try to imply that being willing
to call out inaccurate (technical) info in the news is somehow related to
one's political party.

The article that everyone is causing everyone to make fun of Fox news for says
nothing about Vint.
Fox news has posted two separate articles, both of which have been factually
incorrect.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/26/internet-run-ip-addresses-happens-anyones-guess/
and
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/26/world-run-internet-addresses-year-experts-predict/

They at least corrected the first one - "Editors' Note: An earlier version of
this story erroneously described an IP address as consisting of four digits,
rather than four sets of digits, and inaccurately described the IP address.
This story has been updated to reflect the correction."
But this gem still exists in the first article: "Web developers have
compensated for this problem by creating IPv6". At least there's *probably*
some web developers at IETF that might have had a hand in creating IPv6, so
that one's not technically incorrect...

The second one from several months ago is still borked:
"IPv4, ... the unique 32-digit number used to identify each computer, website
or internet-connected device. ... The solution to the problem is IPv6, which
uses a 128-digit address." So, first it was 32 digits, then it was 4 digits...

FWIW, Marketplace (on NPR) did a story the other night too. It wasn't
necessarily incorrect, but it was so dumbed down that they managed to talk
about IPv4 exhaustion without mentioning the words "IPv4" or "IPv6"
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/01/25/pm-internet-running-out-of-digital-addresses/

Wes George




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