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Re: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update


From: Arturo Servin <aservin () lacnic net>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:06:17 -0200


        I agree with Alex that without a hosted solution RIPE NCC wouldn't have so many ROAs today, for us, even with 
it, it has been more difficult to roll out RPKI among our ISPs. As many, I do not think that a hosted suits to 
everybody and it has some disadvantages but at leas it could help to lower the entry barrier for some.


        Speaking about RPKI stats, here some ROA evolution in various TAs (the data from ARIN is from their beta test, 
the rest are production systems):

http://www.labs.lacnic.net/~rpki/rpki-evolution-report_EN.txt

        And visually:

http://www.labs.lacnic.net/~rpki/rpki-heatmaps/latest/global-roa-heatmap.png

        and

http://www.labs.lacnic.net/~rpki/rpki-heatmaps/latest/

        To see each region.

http://www.labs.lacnic.net/~rpki/rpki-heatmaps

        Also, bgpmon has a nice whois interface for humans to see ROAs (not sure if this link was share here or in 
twitter, sorry if I am duplicating):

http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=414


Best regards,
-as
        


On 29 Jan 2011, at 13:26, Alex Band wrote:

John,

Thanks for the update. With regards to offering a hosted solution, as you know that is the only thing the RIPE NCC 
currently offers. We're developing support for the up/down protocol as I write this.

To give you some perspective, one month after launching the hosted RIPE NCC Resource Certification service, 216 LIRs 
are using it in the RIPE Region and created 169 ROAs covering 467 prefixes. This means 40151 /24 IPv4 prefixes and 
7274499 /48 IPv6 prefixes now have a valid ROA associated with them.

I realize a hosted solution is not ideal, we're very open about that. But at least in our region, it seems there are 
quite a number of organizations who understand and accept the security trade-off of not being the owner of the 
private key for their resource certificate and trust their RIR to run a properly secured and audited service. So the 
question is, if the RIPE NCC would have required everyone to run their own certification setup using the open source 
tool-sets Randy mentions, would there be this much certified address space now? 

Looking at the depletion of IPv4 address space, it's going to be crucially important to have validatable proof who is 
the legitimate holder of Internet resources. I fear that by not offering a hosted certification solution, real world 
adoption rates will rival those of IPv6 and DNSSEC. Can the Internet community afford that?

Alex Band
Product Manager, RIPE NCC

P.S. For those interested in which prefixes and ASs are in the RIPE NCC ROA Repository, here is the latest output in 
CSV format:
http://lunimon.com/valid-roas-20110129.csv



On 24 Jan 2011, at 21:33, John Curran wrote:

Copy to NANOG for those who aren't on ARIN lists but may be interested in this info.
FYI.
/John

Begin forwarded message:

From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net<mailto:jcurran () arin net>>
Date: January 24, 2011 2:58:52 PM EST
To: "arin-announce () arin net<mailto:arin-announce () arin net>" <arin-announce () arin net<mailto:arin-announce () 
arin net>>
Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update

ARIN continues its preparations for offering production-grade resource certification
services for Internet number resources in the region.  ARIN recognizes the importance
of Internet number resource certification in the region as a key element of further
securing Internet routing, and plans to rollout Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI)
at the end of the second quarter of 2011 with support for the Up/Down protocol for those
ISPs who wish to certify their subdelegations via their own RPKI infrastructure.

ARIN continues to evaluate offering a Hosting Resource Certification service for this
purpose (as an alternative to organizations having to run their own RPKI infrastructure),
but at this time it remains under active consideration and is not committed.   We look
forward to discussing the need for this type of service and the organization implications
atour upcoming ARIN Members Meeting in April in San Juan, PR.

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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