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Re: NIST IPv6 document


From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:26:04 -0600 (CST)

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net> wrote:
However, that's not the only potential use! =A0A client that initiates
each new outbound connection from a different IP address is doing
something Really Good.

No, Joe, it is not doing anything Good. =A0This would require the
software being written to make such random address selection, add more
entries to the router's NDP table, and it would DoS the box's own
router if an outbound scan were initiated from the host machine.
Again, you totally fail to understand the problem. =A0I should just
attach a "facepalm" graphic to my reply and stop bothering with your
idiocy, but it is important that as many people as possible understand
these issues. =A0Every additional person who is expressing concern to
their vendors brings us closer to a solution.

A bunch of very smart people have worked on IPv6 for a very long
time, and justification for /64's was hashed out at extended length
over the period of years.

A bunch of clever people have worked on things like 4941, people at
places like IBM and Microsoft, people who created actual working
implementations of these things.

A bunch of experienced people have discussed the operational
ins and outs.  Including myself.  We realize that there are both
good and bad aspects to pretty much any issue.  I certainly said
so about this one.  I view IPv6 as a mostly-done deal; no major
changes are likely to happen.  Too many parties have too much 
invested in all of this.

I'm sorry that you missed out on all of that.

But.

Calling it "my" idiocy?  "Facepalm" graphic?  Brilliant discussion
technique.  If you can't discuss this on the merits and concede that
there are other valid points of view, please hang up and go bother
someone else.  I hear Jim Fleming's available.

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.


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