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Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 09:02:45 -0800
On 1/8/11 3:22 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
Maybe HE would volunteer to host some Skype servers at their various POPS for this purpose.
skype has the the ability to deploy supernodes on demand using their own capacity. they've demonstrated that in the face of congestive collapse, buying ipv6 transit isn't hard.
Skype has to start somewhere. While the v6-only population is still very small, why not dual-stack the clients now with a heavily weighted preference towards v4, track and understand the volume and capabilities of v6, and slowly de-preference v4 over time? Frank -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Kaufman [mailto:matthew () matthew at] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:57 PM To: Joel Jaeggli Cc: Nanog Operators' Group Subject: Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network On 1/6/2011 6:34 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:On 1/6/11 5:48 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:Doesn't all of this become moot if Skype just develops a dual-stackcapable clientand servers?Really, only some fraction of the supernodes and the login servers need to be dual stack.Without revealing too much about the architecture, I can tell you that it would need to be a significant fraction of the supernodes (due to how node-supernode mapping works in these types of P2P systems), the relay nodes (not mentioned) *and* the login servers. Not all of which are deployed and controlled by Skype, of course, as recent press about the most recent outage has reiterated for those who didn't know. Matthew Kaufman
Current thread:
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network, (continued)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Joel Jaeggli (Jan 06)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Matthew Kaufman (Jan 06)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Leen Besselink (Jan 08)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Matthew Kaufman (Jan 08)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Leen Besselink (Jan 09)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Owen DeLong (Jan 09)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Owen DeLong (Jan 09)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Matthew Kaufman (Jan 10)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Mark Andrews (Jan 10)
- RE: Problems with removing NAT from a network Frank Bulk (Jan 08)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Joel Jaeggli (Jan 09)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Matthew Kaufman (Jan 06)
- RE: Problems with removing NAT from a network Dan Wing (Jan 06)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Matthew Kaufman (Jan 06)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 06)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Benson Schliesser (Jan 06)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Owen DeLong (Jan 07)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Dobbins, Roland (Jan 07)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Jack Bates (Jan 07)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Owen DeLong (Jan 07)
- Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network Jack Bates (Jan 07)