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Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF)
From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins () arbor net>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:11:08 +0000
On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
not to quibble but i thought 6296 was stateless.
AFAICT, the translators themselves are just rewriting addresses and not paying attention to 'connections', which is all to the good. But then we get to this: ----- 5.2. Recommendations for Application Writers Several mechanisms (e.g., STUN [RFC5389], Traversal Using Relays around NAT (TURN) [RFC5766], and Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) [RFC5245]) have been used with traditional IPv4 NAT to circumvent some of the limitations of such devices. Similar mechanisms could also be applied to circumvent some of the issues with an NPTv6 Translator. However, all of these require the assistance of an external server or a function co-located with the translator that can tell an "internal" host what its "external" addresses are. ----- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () arbor net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com> The basis of optimism is sheer terror. -- Oscar Wilde
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- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Scott Brim (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Cameron Byrne (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) steve ulrich (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Fred Baker (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Scott Brim (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Fred Baker (Jul 13)
- RE: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Ronald Bonica (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Fred Baker (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Dobbins, Roland (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Randy Bush (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Dobbins, Roland (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp Seth Mos (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp Cameron Byrne (Jul 13)
- Re: in defense of lisp (was: Anybody can participate in the IETF) Randy Bush (Jul 14)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Jeff Wheeler (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Luigi Iannone (Jul 13)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Damien Saucez (Jul 13)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Jeff Wheeler (Jul 13)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Luigi Iannone (Jul 13)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Luigi Iannone (Jul 13)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Eliot Lear (Jul 17)