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Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.


From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" <mksmith () adhost com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:19:13 +0000



On 6/22/11 12:48 PM, "Jeroen van Aart" <jeroen () mompl net> wrote:

Steven Bellovin wrote:
When I was in grad school, the director of the computer center (remember
those) felt that there was no need for 1200 bps modems -- 300 bps was
fine, since no one could read the scrolling output any faster than that
anyway.

Right now, I'm running an rsync job to back up my laptop's hard drive
to my
office.  I hope it finishes before I leave today for Denver.

I understand the sentiment, but the comparison is flawed in my opinion.
The speeds back then were barely any faster than you could type, I know
all too well the horrors of 1200/75 baud connectivity.

Luckily nowadays now it's about getting your dvd torrent downloaded in 2
minutes, vs. 20 minutes, or 2 hours. Or your whole disk backed up before
your flight leaves. You're now able to back it up online to begin with.

The thing here is that I talk about *necessity*. Once connectivity has
reached a certain speed threshold having increased speed generally
starts leaning towards *would be nice* instead of *must*.

And so far the examples people gave are almost all more in the realm of
luxury problems than problems that hinder your life in fundamental ways.

If you have a 100 mbps broadband connection and your toddlers are
slowing down your video conference call with your boss by watching the
newest Dexter (hah!). Then your *need* can be easily satisfied by
telling your toddlers to cut the crap for a while. Sure it'd be nice if
your toddlers could watch Dexter kill another victim whilst you were
having a smooth video conference talk with your boss, but it's not
necessary.

Greetings,
Jeroen

To paraphrase Randy Bush - I hope all my competitors work on their version
of what their customers "need" versus what they "want".  Why on earth
would you not want to give them what they want?  Why does "need" have
anything to do with it, particularly when "need" is impossible to quantify?

Mike



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